Counting by 5's and 10's
 
Come in 5's and 10's in the World!  The Game of the Flowers Let's Building a House!
Magic Square Donald Duck in Mathemagic Land The Numbers of the Clock


Date: Jan. 16, 1998
From Michelle Gonsalves with a short introduction from the math coordinators:  

To: Michelle and Sarah and the 1st grade bilingual students:
We think this is a great idea, not only for students learning how to count but for anyone who is curious about patterns in nature and society. Perhaps all the teachers can challenge their students to think of the things that come in 5's and 10's in their worlds.
Thanks! Kristin, Enid, & Elizabeth
Para Michelle y Sarah y los estudiantes del primer grado bilingue:
Es una estupenda idea , no solo que los estudiantes comiencen a contar, sino para todos los que observamos con curiosidad los patrones en la naturaleza y la sociedad. Quizas todos los maestros puedan estimular a sus estudiantes a pensar en las cosas que se agrupan de cinco en cinco, de diez en diez...
Gracias. Enid, Kristin, y Elizabeth

Message from Michelle and Sarah and their 1st grade class
To all Math Project Participants:
Our two first grade classes, here in Livermore, California, USA, have come up with a Math project. We are presently learning
how to count by fives and how to count by tens. Our curiosity leads us to wonder which of nature's creations come in fives or
tens. We are also curious about other things in our environment that come in fives and tens, for example, money or currency.

It is helpful for us to learn to count by fives and tens, so that we may learn to count coins and dollars here in the United States.
Does your currency also come in denominations of ten or five?

Have you found things in our natural world that always have five or ten of some part? When we get to learning about measurement, we might find other uses for being able to count by fives and/or tens.
We are looking forward to our discoveries here in California and, with your help, all over the world.

Michelle Gonsalves' and Sarah Lazarotti's First Grade Bilingual Classes

Spanish version
A Todos los Participantes del Proyecto de Matematicas:
Nuestras dos clases bilingues de primer nivel de grado, aqui en Livermore, California, USA, han pensado en un proyecto de matematicas. Estamos aprendiendo contar de cinco en cinco y de diez en diez. Somos curiosos para saber cuales cosas o creaturas, que tienen cinco partes, existen en nuestro alrededor o en la naturaleza.

Por ejemplo, en aprender contar el dinero de los EEUU hemos observado que es necesario poder contar de 5 en 5 y de 10 en 10. #192# El dinero de su pais funciona asi?Cuando empezamos estudiar medidas, creemos que vayamos a encontrar mas
razones de poder contar de 10 en 10.

Tenemos mucho entusiasmo para descubrir cosas que vienen en cinco's en nuestro alrededor y esperamos con mucho entusiasmo los descubrimientos que ustedes haran en otras partes del mundo.

Las Clases de Primero de Sra. Gonsalves y Srta. Lazarotti

3 Feb 1998 From Enid Figueroa and Kristin Brown
Dear friends in the math project:
In this message Petru's group in Romania responds to the challenge Michelle's and Sarah's group in California presented us: finding things in our environment that come in 5's and 10's. Can you think of anything else to add to the list?
Regards, Kristin and Enid
Spanish translation:
Queridos amigos del proyecto de matematicas:
En el mensaje que prosigue, el grupo de estudiantes de Petru, en Romania, ha respondido al reto que los estudiantes de Michelle y Sarah en California lanzaron a los participantes del proyecto. Consiste este reto de identificar en nuestro ambiente aquellas cosas que se encuentran en grupos de 5 y de 10. Podrian pensar ustedes en algunas mas?
Saludos, Kristin y Enid

From Petru Dumitru
Dear Michelle, Sarah and Math friends,
We are very glad that we can help you. Right today, we think on other examples-counting 5's or 10's.
We have discovered come 5's only. You'd  make a lot of flowers, using colored paper or cardboard, because the winter is coming.  I know, it's difficult work, but your little students deserve it. You'd play with all "The game of the flowers". The following flowers have 5 petals: potato plant (flower in 5 corner), sun flower (many little flowers, in tubes forme), beans, apple tree (and familly: wild strawberry, strawberry, raspberry and blackberry), grape-vine, hardhay (Hypericum perforatum), sugar beet, flax (Linum- very beautiful blue flowers in 5 petals, of course). For the time being we have founded a only one example for leaves: a great hemp's leaf has 5 little.If I can be of any further help, please do not hesitate to write to me.
Good luck, Petru's Group

10 Feb 1998

Dear All,
Many days we have thought and searched other ideas about counting, using nature's examples. We was talking over about it some Biology's teachers. Unfortunately, we heard that many plants have the leaves in odd numbers, like 3, 5, 7, 9 and 11. We have found other examples for 3, 4, 6 and 8, if you are interested.
 

Best regards to all, Petru & Group 
11 Feb 1998, From Petru Dumitru
Dear friends,

We are proposing you a new game for come in 5's and 10's: LET'S BUILDING A HOUSE!
First we need 4 sticks match to build a square; we are continuing put 3 sticks match (left or right). We are having a rectangle contents 7 sticks match and 2 squares (a common side). We put then over the rectangle 3 sticks match for a trapezium -the house's roof-. Finally, we have used 10 sticks match.
The next step: We want to add a new storey: we have to use 5 sticks, for the basis. We have repeat this procedure, for each storey and we are counting: 10, 15, 20, 25 ... What is your opinion?

Good luck, Petru and the Group  
Idea en espanol:
Amigos, Petru propone un nuevo juego matematico con agrupaciones de 5 y de 10. Lo llama "Construyendo una casa". Primero necesitamos 4 palillos para construir un cuadrado, se colocan otros tres palillos de izquierda a derecha. Hemos construido un rectangulo y dos cuadrados con un lado en comun con siete palillos. Despues, colocamos sobre el rectangulo 3 palillos para formar un trapecio que es el techo de la casa. Entonces al final hemos utilizado 10 palillos.
El proximo paso:
Para a#adir otros pisos necesitamos 5 palillos mas, los cuales seran la base. Repetimos este procedimiento para cada piso y podemos contar en grupos de 10, 15, 20, 25... Que opinan?
Buena Suerte, Petru y el grupo

17 Feb 1998, From Enid Figueroa
Petru's group sent new ideas:
El grupo de matematicas de Petru nos envia nuevas ideas:
Hi everyone,

1. A new proposal for count 5's and 10's. Let's count the wheels's cars! Each cars has 4 wheels and a spare wheel = 5 wheels. So, we'd invite our little students in a parking lot and count from 0, 5, 10....
1. Una nueva propuesta para contar de 5' y de 10' Contemos las gomas (llantas) de los carros (autos). Cada carro tiene 4
gomas y una goma de repuesta, por lo tanto lleva 5 gomas. Asi que en un estacionamiento, los estudiantes pueden contar desde 0, 5, 10...
2. A new game: "Magic square". Let's count: 15, 45, 75, 105...
2. Este nuevo juego se llama el Cuadrado Magico: Contemos 15, 45, 75, 105..
 
El resultado de la suma de las lineas (vertical, diagonal u horizontal) debe ser 15. Si a#adimos un 1 delante de cada numero, el resultado es 45. Si aŁadimos un 2, el resultado es 75 etc. 
********** 
* 2 * 9 * 4 * 
* 7 * 5 * 3 * 
* 6 * 1 * 8 * 
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    ************ 
    * 12 *19 *14 * 
    * 17 *15 *13 * 
    * 16 *11 *18* 
    ************* 
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*22 *29*24 * 
*27 *25*23 * 
*26 *21*28* 
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The sum for each line (horizontal, vertical and diagonal) must be 15. If we add 1 for the each line, we have 45. If we add 2, we have 75 etc
 

 Petru and Math Group
  
6 Feb 1998, From Lillis Weber
Hi all,
Just wanted to add to Petru's list of 5 petalled flowers. In Florida we have annuals that are called Pentas. They are small flowers but prolific. They have 5 petals on each flower and come in blues and pinks. This year they made it through the winter so far - planted in my front yard. I also have an indoor plant that is a member of the hoya family. It is also called the Star
Jasmine. It is mentioned in the Video "Donald Duck in Mathemagic Land" which I show every year. The video shows it unfolding. It starts out as a perfect pentagram. It is white and waxy looking. Then it opens from the center into a perfect 5 pointed star with dark pink stamens inside. The flowers come in clusters that form round balls almost. Good luck with your search.
Lillis Weber

20 Jan 1998 From Petru Dumitru
Dear Michelle, Sarah and Math friends,
I and my students have thought to your idea about count in 5's and 10's. Today we are composing some Math problems, applying pattern for counting in 3's, 4's, 6's. We used it for all little students (7-8 years old). They don't know yet the multiplication.
As well known, old peoples had using different bases, systems of numeration with 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 and even 60.
I met in my teaching activity (20 years, in 1998) a lot of difficulties to all students who want to transformation the numbers from one base in other. I found a excuses for students: in our lives we don't use than (prevalent) the decimal system. "We kept" some numerations' "bases" in our time: dozen, from old chineses, the circle's measurement and the clock's divisions, from Phoenicians. Do you know others numeration bases's using today?
Good luck all, Petru's Group from Romania


From Aileen Velazquez

Spanish/Espanol
Otra idea desde Puerto Rico:
Hola:
No se si habran considerado la idea de contar de cinco en cinco con los n#meros en el reloj. Cada numero representa 5 minutos.

Aileen Velazquez, LABMAT 7, Aguas Buenas, Puerto Rico
English/Ingles
Hello
Please consider the idea to count by 5, using the numbers of the clock. Each number represents 5 minutes.
Aileen Velazquez, Labmat7, Aguas Buenas, Puerto Rico